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	<title>Comments on: In photos: How you know you picked a good elementary school</title>
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		<title>By: observer</title>
		<link>http://www.thingamababy.com/baby/2009/10/choosingschool.html/comment-page-1#comment-43444</link>
		<dc:creator>observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at my elementary school they had the principal kiss a pig if they did something, though i can&#039;t remember what it was. i think  it may have been reading or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at my elementary school they had the principal kiss a pig if they did something, though i can&#8217;t remember what it was. i think  it may have been reading or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another subtle gague of a good school is whether or not they have a school social worker on staff.  Schools in survival mode will often cut that position or share a social worker with several other schools so that they are only there occasionally.  School social workers can go a long way to curb bullying, help special needs or socially awkward kids find ways to make school a better experience, and other things that don&#039;t necessarily show up on test scores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another subtle gague of a good school is whether or not they have a school social worker on staff.  Schools in survival mode will often cut that position or share a social worker with several other schools so that they are only there occasionally.  School social workers can go a long way to curb bullying, help special needs or socially awkward kids find ways to make school a better experience, and other things that don&#8217;t necessarily show up on test scores.</p>
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		<title>By: gertie</title>
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		<dc:creator>gertie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an elementary school teacher, and in my experience the difference between a great school and all the others are that most schools are in survival mode, trying to meet their test score minimums so they are not taken over by the government (&quot;program improvement&quot;).

All public schools will try to teach to the tests, because the tests are based on the state standards, but mediocre and bad schools stop there.  Good and great schools will also teach what is not tested.  For instance, in California science is not tested until grade 5.  A survival-mode school will largely ignore science in the lower grades, while a great school will have a well-developed science curriculum from K on.  I&#039;d ask teachers about the projects they teach to try to get a sense of whether they collaborate and share ideas, or hide in their rooms doing their own thing.

I&#039;d agree that parent involvement is the most important factor in any child&#039;s success.  I&#039;d also agree that it&#039;s important to find a school where involvement is high, because your child will not only be learning from you and the teachers, they will be learning from their peers.  

I&#039;ve worked at and attended wealthy and poor schools.  I&#039;ve never seen the phenomenon of rich parents checking out of their kid&#039;s education because they have a &#039;good school&#039;.  Maybe my schools weren&#039;t &#039;good&#039; enough for that phenomenon?  We did have a 98% four-year college attendance rate in my high school, and a 95% rate for the district where I first worked.  Kids in those schools had a ton of parental involvement.  My current school is economically diverse, and we do have many poor families who are very involved and devoted to education. I work in an expensive area, and we have many poor families who simply do not have the time (many have three jobs and barely see their kids). In the area where I work, lower income level correlates with a higher level of school violence, but this is not true in the area where I live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an elementary school teacher, and in my experience the difference between a great school and all the others are that most schools are in survival mode, trying to meet their test score minimums so they are not taken over by the government (&#8221;program improvement&#8221;).</p>
<p>All public schools will try to teach to the tests, because the tests are based on the state standards, but mediocre and bad schools stop there.  Good and great schools will also teach what is not tested.  For instance, in California science is not tested until grade 5.  A survival-mode school will largely ignore science in the lower grades, while a great school will have a well-developed science curriculum from K on.  I&#8217;d ask teachers about the projects they teach to try to get a sense of whether they collaborate and share ideas, or hide in their rooms doing their own thing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d agree that parent involvement is the most important factor in any child&#8217;s success.  I&#8217;d also agree that it&#8217;s important to find a school where involvement is high, because your child will not only be learning from you and the teachers, they will be learning from their peers.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked at and attended wealthy and poor schools.  I&#8217;ve never seen the phenomenon of rich parents checking out of their kid&#8217;s education because they have a &#8216;good school&#8217;.  Maybe my schools weren&#8217;t &#8216;good&#8217; enough for that phenomenon?  We did have a 98% four-year college attendance rate in my high school, and a 95% rate for the district where I first worked.  Kids in those schools had a ton of parental involvement.  My current school is economically diverse, and we do have many poor families who are very involved and devoted to education. I work in an expensive area, and we have many poor families who simply do not have the time (many have three jobs and barely see their kids). In the area where I work, lower income level correlates with a higher level of school violence, but this is not true in the area where I live.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this AJ, I&#039;ll need to look it up again when looking for schools around here. I love that your principal is so cool. I remember my elementary school principal really embodied everything I disliked about school (and I was a great student). 

I hope we get to see more of what makes your school so fantastic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this AJ, I&#8217;ll need to look it up again when looking for schools around here. I love that your principal is so cool. I remember my elementary school principal really embodied everything I disliked about school (and I was a great student). </p>
<p>I hope we get to see more of what makes your school so fantastic!</p>
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		<title>By: RobMonroe</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobMonroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post is perfect on both accounts - thanks for the reminder about why and how to pick schools, and how and why not to.

The pictures and story are just plain fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is perfect on both accounts &#8211; thanks for the reminder about why and how to pick schools, and how and why not to.</p>
<p>The pictures and story are just plain fun!</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noreen, I&#039;m pushing for a full-face henna tattoo next year. The one glitch is that it wouldn&#039;t fit into a 30 minute assembly. But hey, how about an ear piercing? Have an earring made of the school&#039;s initials.

Oh Kendra, this is the 21st century. We have dads who participate too. Okay, very few dads, but still...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noreen, I&#8217;m pushing for a full-face henna tattoo next year. The one glitch is that it wouldn&#8217;t fit into a 30 minute assembly. But hey, how about an ear piercing? Have an earring made of the school&#8217;s initials.</p>
<p>Oh Kendra, this is the 21st century. We have dads who participate too. Okay, very few dads, but still&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kendra aka The Meanest Momma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kendra aka The Meanest Momma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>considering your principal&#039;s good looks and good will, I&#039;m not surprised your PTA  involvement is high! :)

sounds like you have found a great program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>considering your principal&#8217;s good looks and good will, I&#8217;m not surprised your PTA  involvement is high! :)</p>
<p>sounds like you have found a great program.</p>
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		<title>By: Noreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>last year the principal shaved his head if we had more PTA members than kids.  This year the kids are voting on what the principal has to do since we did it again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>last year the principal shaved his head if we had more PTA members than kids.  This year the kids are voting on what the principal has to do since we did it again!</p>
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