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	<title>Comments on: Three Children&#8217;s Books about Space and Aliens</title>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think she meant &quot;sheer&quot; joy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think she meant &#8220;sheer&#8221; joy.</p>
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		<title>By: anjii</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 15:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ, I pretty much agree with Jen here. It&#039;s not that kids shouldn&#039;t be taught at home, it&#039;s that they shouldn&#039;t be pushed, and expected to perform past their personal readiness. I think the biggest issue with what you said is the implication that most kids SHOULD be reading before grade 1. 

I was reading at 2 1/2, not because I was pushed, (and I&#039;m NOT saying you pushed Little Miss... she was obviously ready and interested). I was reading at that age because I wanted to, and I asked my mom to teach me, so she did. My first son was HIGHLY advanced verbally, and devoured books, so I had visions of him following in my footsteps. At 4 1/2, he occasionally mentions that he wants to learn to read, but when I try to sit down with our early readers, he gets bored and frustrated quickly. At this point, he&#039;d really rather just be read to, so that&#039;s what I do. My concern is that if I push him too hard, I&#039;ll take the joy out of it for him, which is the biggest killer of childhood reading, in my opinion. Of course, I continue to talk about the phonics of letters and words in the real world, and sneak in a few readers here and there, but right now, I&#039;m just doing what he wants most, which is reading to him often. I also have much lower expectations for my younger son, whose language skills are much more normal (they were actually slightly delayed, due to his preemie/IUGR status, and hearing/fluid issues for awhile, but he&#039;s caught up now). But he&#039;s also better at figuring a lot of stuff out than Wyatt was, and has more persistance, so maybe he&#039;ll surprise me and be reading at 3 :)

Anyways, I&#039;ve rambled, but my point is, the best thing parents can do is to feed and encourage any interest in reading (and other things), but not to place expectations on them and make it a &quot;chore&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ, I pretty much agree with Jen here. It&#8217;s not that kids shouldn&#8217;t be taught at home, it&#8217;s that they shouldn&#8217;t be pushed, and expected to perform past their personal readiness. I think the biggest issue with what you said is the implication that most kids SHOULD be reading before grade 1. </p>
<p>I was reading at 2 1/2, not because I was pushed, (and I&#8217;m NOT saying you pushed Little Miss&#8230; she was obviously ready and interested). I was reading at that age because I wanted to, and I asked my mom to teach me, so she did. My first son was HIGHLY advanced verbally, and devoured books, so I had visions of him following in my footsteps. At 4 1/2, he occasionally mentions that he wants to learn to read, but when I try to sit down with our early readers, he gets bored and frustrated quickly. At this point, he&#8217;d really rather just be read to, so that&#8217;s what I do. My concern is that if I push him too hard, I&#8217;ll take the joy out of it for him, which is the biggest killer of childhood reading, in my opinion. Of course, I continue to talk about the phonics of letters and words in the real world, and sneak in a few readers here and there, but right now, I&#8217;m just doing what he wants most, which is reading to him often. I also have much lower expectations for my younger son, whose language skills are much more normal (they were actually slightly delayed, due to his preemie/IUGR status, and hearing/fluid issues for awhile, but he&#8217;s caught up now). But he&#8217;s also better at figuring a lot of stuff out than Wyatt was, and has more persistance, so maybe he&#8217;ll surprise me and be reading at 3 :)</p>
<p>Anyways, I&#8217;ve rambled, but my point is, the best thing parents can do is to feed and encourage any interest in reading (and other things), but not to place expectations on them and make it a &#8220;chore&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Nadia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nadia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 09:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am guessing your daughter has mostly learned to read from being read to, and being really familiar with books, and therein lies the real problem. I&#039;ve tutored kids as old as 8 or 9 who not only couldn&#039;t read, but weren&#039;t familiar with books the way you expect a pre-reader to be (recognising there are words on the page, waiting until I finished reading them a sentence to turn the page, and the like). I think reading to kids and getting them involved in a culture of learning is what&#039;s really important, but learning to read and enthusiasm to learn naturally follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am guessing your daughter has mostly learned to read from being read to, and being really familiar with books, and therein lies the real problem. I&#8217;ve tutored kids as old as 8 or 9 who not only couldn&#8217;t read, but weren&#8217;t familiar with books the way you expect a pre-reader to be (recognising there are words on the page, waiting until I finished reading them a sentence to turn the page, and the like). I think reading to kids and getting them involved in a culture of learning is what&#8217;s really important, but learning to read and enthusiasm to learn naturally follow.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What can I say Jen? My daughter began reading when she was 3-years and 4-months-old. Today, writing words is a big part of her pretend play, particularly signs and fill-in forms. Yesterday she composed a rhyming song. She now makes sense of symbols she sees sitting bored as I drive down the road.

This week is her first week in kindergarten and she enjoyed being able to read the same name tags the teacher was using to learn student names.

And yes, each child is different. I expect my son will learn to read at a much older age. If you know of research that indicates what I&#039;m doing is harmful, I&#039;ll gladly read it.

As for other countries, there are so many variables involved between different cultures that I don&#039;t weigh that factor much. Can kids begin reading at age 7 and be academically fine? Sure. Does that make reading at 3 or 4 bad? I don&#039;t think so.

In California, the content standards for kindergarten state, &quot;Students know about letters, words and sounds. They apply this knowledge to read simple sentences.&quot; So, that&#039;s what they&#039;re being taught at age 5. Her English teacher (she&#039;s in an English/Spanish immersion school) has books in her classroom up to a third grade reading level. Granted, we saw a perk of language immersion as providing an extra challenge for her because being above average on reading could make her bored in class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What can I say Jen? My daughter began reading when she was 3-years and 4-months-old. Today, writing words is a big part of her pretend play, particularly signs and fill-in forms. Yesterday she composed a rhyming song. She now makes sense of symbols she sees sitting bored as I drive down the road.</p>
<p>This week is her first week in kindergarten and she enjoyed being able to read the same name tags the teacher was using to learn student names.</p>
<p>And yes, each child is different. I expect my son will learn to read at a much older age. If you know of research that indicates what I&#8217;m doing is harmful, I&#8217;ll gladly read it.</p>
<p>As for other countries, there are so many variables involved between different cultures that I don&#8217;t weigh that factor much. Can kids begin reading at age 7 and be academically fine? Sure. Does that make reading at 3 or 4 bad? I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>In California, the content standards for kindergarten state, &#8220;Students know about letters, words and sounds. They apply this knowledge to read simple sentences.&#8221; So, that&#8217;s what they&#8217;re being taught at age 5. Her English teacher (she&#8217;s in an English/Spanish immersion school) has books in her classroom up to a third grade reading level. Granted, we saw a perk of language immersion as providing an extra challenge for her because being above average on reading could make her bored in class.</p>
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		<title>By: Angelique</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angelique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh, some kids are ready to read much earlier than 5 or 7.  My son basically taught himself by three.  We just read a lot to him.  Every child is different, but I think early reading has a lot to do with how much reading a child is exposed to.  Curiosity is a great motivator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, some kids are ready to read much earlier than 5 or 7.  My son basically taught himself by three.  We just read a lot to him.  Every child is different, but I think early reading has a lot to do with how much reading a child is exposed to.  Curiosity is a great motivator.</p>
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		<title>By: noreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>noreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember reading a book as a kid, maybe 3rd grade or so, that took place in the future, the 1980s (when I read the book) and it was about two kids who lived on Mars.  Now I want to find that book</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember reading a book as a kid, maybe 3rd grade or so, that took place in the future, the 1980s (when I read the book) and it was about two kids who lived on Mars.  Now I want to find that book</p>
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		<title>By: Dani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our favorite book about space currently is Mars needs Moms. Granted it has nothing about &quot;real&quot; space but I love Berkeley Breathed and it has prompted some very interesting conversations with our 3.5 year old. Where is Mars? how far away? how we could get to it? and ultimately a long drawn out conversation concerning NASA and competing space programs.
Of course the real reason I love it? The boy snuggles with me when we read it and who knows how much longer I&#039;ll have that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our favorite book about space currently is Mars needs Moms. Granted it has nothing about &#8220;real&#8221; space but I love Berkeley Breathed and it has prompted some very interesting conversations with our 3.5 year old. Where is Mars? how far away? how we could get to it? and ultimately a long drawn out conversation concerning NASA and competing space programs.<br />
Of course the real reason I love it? The boy snuggles with me when we read it and who knows how much longer I&#8217;ll have that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an issue with what you said about kids not all being able to read in first grade.  The push for academics for children age 5 and younger is relatively new.  The research does not support your position- few children are actually ready to really read when they are 5.  And starting a little later gives kids time to mature and be ready for school- in Finland, where test scores are routinely higher than in the US, children do not start to learn to read in a classroom setting until they are 7.  Additionally, but pushing kids beyond what id developmentally appropriate in terms of reading, you may inadvertently force a child to skip crucial steps, such as learning to read fluently by reading something that is &quot;easy&quot; for them.  I am a parent who reads to my children; my three year old is close to learning to read.  But she is learning organically and not because we are pushing her at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an issue with what you said about kids not all being able to read in first grade.  The push for academics for children age 5 and younger is relatively new.  The research does not support your position- few children are actually ready to really read when they are 5.  And starting a little later gives kids time to mature and be ready for school- in Finland, where test scores are routinely higher than in the US, children do not start to learn to read in a classroom setting until they are 7.  Additionally, but pushing kids beyond what id developmentally appropriate in terms of reading, you may inadvertently force a child to skip crucial steps, such as learning to read fluently by reading something that is &#8220;easy&#8221; for them.  I am a parent who reads to my children; my three year old is close to learning to read.  But she is learning organically and not because we are pushing her at all.</p>
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		<title>By: kym</title>
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		<dc:creator>kym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max goes to the Moon is one of my favorite stories for my boy.  I learned some great stuff myself and Malachi loves the illustrations.  I should get the other two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max goes to the Moon is one of my favorite stories for my boy.  I learned some great stuff myself and Malachi loves the illustrations.  I should get the other two.</p>
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