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		<title>By: Elliott Kim - 21st Century Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliott Kim - 21st Century Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was in 6th grade, and 6th grade boys are more concerned with other things. I understood the loss of life, but life went on. There were Transformers and GI Joes to play with.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is in stark contrast to my reaction to the more recent Shuttle Columbia disaster. I cried when I saw the newspaper the next day.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are many defining moments in history. My stepson has only sketchy recall of 9/11. He was only 7. He was just mad that recess and his favorite TV shows were all canceled that day. Now, it&#039;s but an indistinct memory and (*groan*) yet another thing to remember for history class.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in 6th grade, and 6th grade boys are more concerned with other things. I understood the loss of life, but life went on. There were Transformers and GI Joes to play with.</p>
<p>This is in stark contrast to my reaction to the more recent Shuttle Columbia disaster. I cried when I saw the newspaper the next day.</p>
<p>There are many defining moments in history. My stepson has only sketchy recall of 9/11. He was only 7. He was just mad that recess and his favorite TV shows were all canceled that day. Now, it&#8217;s but an indistinct memory and (*groan*) yet another thing to remember for history class.</p>
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		<title>By: Kit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 02:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow. I was just a few months old when the Challenger exploded, just about the same age as my triplets are now... Makes you think, I guess. I didn&#039;t see any stories on the Lego anniversary until the day after it showed up on the Google home page, so that might have helped the story a bit.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I was just a few months old when the Challenger exploded, just about the same age as my triplets are now&#8230; Makes you think, I guess. I didn&#8217;t see any stories on the Lego anniversary until the day after it showed up on the Google home page, so that might have helped the story a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow, I didn&#039;t realize that today was the day. So sad... I remember all of the build-up surrounding the launch. Scholastic promoted it heavily in their Weekly Readers. I don&#039;t recall hearing about the tragedy at school (I attended a very small school), but I do remember watching the post-crash television coverage in silence with my mother. Even at 8 years old, the enormity of the event left its mark on me.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I didn&#8217;t realize that today was the day. So sad&#8230; I remember all of the build-up surrounding the launch. Scholastic promoted it heavily in their Weekly Readers. I don&#8217;t recall hearing about the tragedy at school (I attended a very small school), but I do remember watching the post-crash television coverage in silence with my mother. Even at 8 years old, the enormity of the event left its mark on me.</p>
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		<title>By: My Boaz&#39;s Ruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Boaz&#39;s Ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;PS according to Wikipedia: &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They had reason to think the crew might have survived.  &quot;Had there been a true explosion, the entire shuttle would have been instantly destroyed, killing the crew at that moment. The more robustly constructed crew cabin and SRBs survived the breakup of the launch vehicle; while the SRBs were subsequently detonated remotely, the detached cabin continued along a ballistic trajectory, and was observed exiting the cloud of gases at T+75.237.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Likely, they died at the moment of impact with the ocean, NOT at the breakup.  &quot;During vehicle breakup, the robustly constructed crew cabin detached in one piece and slowly tumbled. NASA estimated separation forces at about 12 to 20 times the force of gravity (g) very briefly; however, within two seconds, the forces on the cabin had already dropped to below 4 g, and within ten seconds the cabin was in free fall. These forces were likely insufficient to cause major injury. At least some of the astronauts were likely alive and briefly conscious after the breakup, because three of the four Personal Egress Air Packs (PEAPs) on the flight deck were found to have been activated. Investigators found their remaining unused air supply roughly consistent with the expected consumption during the 2 minute 45 second post-breakup trajectory. Whether the astronauts remained conscious long after the breakup is unknown, and largely depends on whether the detached crew cabin maintained pressure integrity. If it did not, time of useful consciousness at that altitude is just a few seconds; the PEAPs supplied only unpressurized air, and hence would not have helped the crew to retain consciousness. The crew cabin hit the ocean surface at roughly 334 km/h (207 mph), causing an instantaneous deceleration of over 200 g, far beyond the structural limits of the crew compartment or crew survivability levels.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(Interestingly, I recently learned that there has not been 1 case of a commercial airplane surviving a crash landing in the ocean.  The force of hitting the water appears to be the problem here too)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS according to Wikipedia: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster</a></p>
<p>They had reason to think the crew might have survived.  &#8220;Had there been a true explosion, the entire shuttle would have been instantly destroyed, killing the crew at that moment. The more robustly constructed crew cabin and SRBs survived the breakup of the launch vehicle; while the SRBs were subsequently detonated remotely, the detached cabin continued along a ballistic trajectory, and was observed exiting the cloud of gases at T+75.237.&#8221; </p>
<p>Likely, they died at the moment of impact with the ocean, NOT at the breakup.  &#8220;During vehicle breakup, the robustly constructed crew cabin detached in one piece and slowly tumbled. NASA estimated separation forces at about 12 to 20 times the force of gravity (g) very briefly; however, within two seconds, the forces on the cabin had already dropped to below 4 g, and within ten seconds the cabin was in free fall. These forces were likely insufficient to cause major injury. At least some of the astronauts were likely alive and briefly conscious after the breakup, because three of the four Personal Egress Air Packs (PEAPs) on the flight deck were found to have been activated. Investigators found their remaining unused air supply roughly consistent with the expected consumption during the 2 minute 45 second post-breakup trajectory. Whether the astronauts remained conscious long after the breakup is unknown, and largely depends on whether the detached crew cabin maintained pressure integrity. If it did not, time of useful consciousness at that altitude is just a few seconds; the PEAPs supplied only unpressurized air, and hence would not have helped the crew to retain consciousness. The crew cabin hit the ocean surface at roughly 334 km/h (207 mph), causing an instantaneous deceleration of over 200 g, far beyond the structural limits of the crew compartment or crew survivability levels.&#8221;</p>
<p>(Interestingly, I recently learned that there has not been 1 case of a commercial airplane surviving a crash landing in the ocean.  The force of hitting the water appears to be the problem here too)</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Now that&#039;s what I call an indelible memory. Good catch. I added 3 hours instead of subtracted them. I&#039;ve corrected the timestamp.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I saved the next day&#039;s newspaper and found it again when going through boxes last year. I had saved it because I recalled seeing my grandfather&#039;s newspaper from when the RMS Titanic sank.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that&#8217;s what I call an indelible memory. Good catch. I added 3 hours instead of subtracted them. I&#8217;ve corrected the timestamp.</p>
<p>I saved the next day&#8217;s newspaper and found it again when going through boxes last year. I had saved it because I recalled seeing my grandfather&#8217;s newspaper from when the RMS Titanic sank.</p>
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		<title>By: My Boaz&#39;s Ruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Boaz&#39;s Ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;On this date, at 2:39 p.m. Pacific Time in 1986&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Couldn&#039;t have been.  I was still in school, in Texas and Pacific Time is 2 hours behind central.  (In fact I was pulled out of gym when the Challenger exploded)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Wikipedia: &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster&lt;/a&gt;  says 11:39 am EST (so 10:39a my time, 8:39am Pacific time...)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t recall anything about &quot;thinking they might survive&quot; or feeling any more cynical after this, although I did collect all the Houston Chronicles for a while.  I thought this was the end of the space program.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;On this date, at 2:39 p.m. Pacific Time in 1986&#8243;</p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t have been.  I was still in school, in Texas and Pacific Time is 2 hours behind central.  (In fact I was pulled out of gym when the Challenger exploded)</p>
<p>Wikipedia: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster</a>  says 11:39 am EST (so 10:39a my time, 8:39am Pacific time&#8230;)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t recall anything about &#8220;thinking they might survive&#8221; or feeling any more cynical after this, although I did collect all the Houston Chronicles for a while.  I thought this was the end of the space program.</p>
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		<title>By: jill</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;wow 1986??  I could have sworn I was younger... but I remember seeing it on TV in school.    I guess it must have been Junior year in HS... &lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow 1986??  I could have sworn I was younger&#8230; but I remember seeing it on TV in school.    I guess it must have been Junior year in HS&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Chief Family Officer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chief Family Officer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t remember how old I was, but I do remember that I was living in Japan at the time and heard the news when I woke up one morning. I guess it&#039;s because of Christa McAuliffe that the shuttle mission was a big deal to me and I remember being so sad at hearing the news. Even at that age, I understood the tragedy.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t remember how old I was, but I do remember that I was living in Japan at the time and heard the news when I woke up one morning. I guess it&#8217;s because of Christa McAuliffe that the shuttle mission was a big deal to me and I remember being so sad at hearing the news. Even at that age, I understood the tragedy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I remember the news coming over the speaker in the classroom from the office.  And I remember my third grade teacher crying as we heard the new.  I don&#039;t know that we all realized what had happened, but it was quickly explained to us.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the news coming over the speaker in the classroom from the office.  And I remember my third grade teacher crying as we heard the new.  I don&#8217;t know that we all realized what had happened, but it was quickly explained to us.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherri Edman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherri Edman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 02:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree, this was a defining moment. I didn&#039;t see it live, but my mom told me about it in the car on the way to school-- I think she would rather have not, but there was no way I wouldn&#039;t hear about it at school. I was in 4th grade, and I didn&#039;t appreciate fully the horror that their families watched them die until I was a little older. Yikes.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, this was a defining moment. I didn&#8217;t see it live, but my mom told me about it in the car on the way to school&#8211; I think she would rather have not, but there was no way I wouldn&#8217;t hear about it at school. I was in 4th grade, and I didn&#8217;t appreciate fully the horror that their families watched them die until I was a little older. Yikes.</p>
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